• flashgnash@lemm.ee
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    23 days ago

    My concern with this and other platforms like gog is that I can be fairly confident valve isn’t going under anytime soon, and that they have no interest in taking games away from people

    I don’t have nearly that same faith in a project that’s only just started and doesn’t have the amount of money behind it valve does

    Sure, once you own these games you own them but that means having to store every single game I’ve bought somewhere incase they go under and it all vanishes

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      23 days ago

      The common thing between this and GOG is that they apparently offer DRM free games so if you’ve got the game backed up, you’ll never lose access to it. If Steam suddenly disappeared, we’d all be fucked.

      Oh and I mean since we’re talking DRM free games, they’ll get uploaded to torrent sites anyway. Don’t even need to keep them backed up yourself.

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        23 days ago

        At which point what’s the point of even buying it if you’re going to torrent it later on anyway though

        Would have just the same claim to ethically pirate it if I were to buy it there as if I bought it on steam

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          IANAL but is that really true? You don’t “Buy” anything on steam, you’re licensing a subscription to use the software under their terms. Downloading a torrent wouldn’t be covered by that. Purchasing a game though and having the same data backed up on a device is covered (identical to a torrent download), at least I thought that was the legal case for rom’s and such even being able to exist in the first place.

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            22 days ago

            I think torrenting someone else’s copy of a game is still illegal regardless of if you own a copy yourself

            I’m talking purely ethically, I don’t consider it to be any different where I paid for the game originally if I can no longer access it via that platform

            Pretty sure roms are only legal if you rip them yourself from your own console.

            I don’t think it’s legal for people to distribute them but torrenting makes that an unwinnable game of wack a mole to shut down so they don’t bother usually

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        22 days ago

        What about when that HDD gets lost or dies, then I need a backup.

        Without an automated system will be unreliable and a pain in the ass to maintain

        If it’s automated and not just a hard drive I shove games on every now and then it requires a machine to run it and constant electricity

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          22 days ago

          So we’re just basically considering statistically which is more plausible? A HDD failing versus a corporation being greedy? I think both are bad and unreliable. A company guaranteeing a “purchase” in perpetuity (not subscription) and having the standard be offline installers (for your own backup) is the best bet. Everything else is just dictating the best way to stub your toe.

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            22 days ago

            So far I’ve had one hard drive fail and lose a bunch of my work from long ago (before I knew to use git), have physically lost memory sticks to similar effect

            On the other hand I’ve still got everything in my Dropbox that I worked on as a child, everything on my old web server was still there until I pulled it down and cancelled it, all the contacts on my phone I have ever made, and I’ve never lost a steam game

            I get not wanting to put your faith in big companies and I don’t like the idea but so far they’ve proven far more reliable than I am in looking after my stuff

            (I also tend not to keep anything sensitive in there and open source all my code nowadays anyway so leaks and ai training don’t bother me that much)

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    22 days ago

    What’s the point of this when you can already use proton ge with lutris or bottles?

    Am I missing something? Is the idea just to make the process easier?

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    22 days ago

    See that, GoG? This can be done, it doesn’t hurt and there are already tools that can be used to build it without all too much effort.