Rotating banners on /r/piracy

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · edit-2 8 months ago

Rotating banners on /r/piracy

haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com · 8 months ago

Phenomenal work as always!

My suggestion is mood and topic based prompts derived from the current trajectory of the sub, for example:

Always compared to the day before

more swearwords = stormy weather
more anti corporate speak = more punky/anarchist pictures
more friendly words = sunny weather
more people joining = more ships in the background
more posts = more loot/gold in the background

This is pretty complex but would give it a unique adaptive vibe instead of randomness alone.

Just an idea. Thanks for reading. :)

UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works · edit-2 8 months ago

While this is very cool, and a nice idea. I have to vote aginst it. AI art is just so uncanny and soulless.

In my opinion it’d be way better to have human-drawn art as the banner. For starters AI generated “art” can’t really even be called art. “Art” implies that it has some meaning, value, message, or a memory even. AI can make art tho, when you mastered it and use it the same as painter uses a brush. I don’t think a daily random gen in compatible with putting care into what you create. If we switch the banner every day with another auto generated picture, it’ll be just that; a cool picture. But if we maybe switch it up every year (for it to not be stale) with an art competition it’ll have love in it at least, with possibilty for all kind of valuables, such as refrences or a unique style.

You could get around this issue with an avatar. A mascot (of the community) if you will. After having the mascot fed to an AI it can generate it in any position doing anything with any background, allowing us to not waste the idea of another commenter (haui), who suggested that it should be dynamic, that it should change depending on what happened the previous day. It could be refreshed daily, it could be made dynamic, and it’ll have soul.

I can’t draw. But I think I speak for others when I say that I wouldn’t mind drawing a character for a community that I can thank thousands of dollars to.

Stretch@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 months ago

For starters AI generated “art” can’t really even be called art.

You called it art. Zer0 said images, and its just that.

I’m old enough to recall when people said electronica and sampling wasn’t music. Since then, we have Hip Hop, Daft Punk, Crystal Method, Deadmau5, and hundreds of others wasting their time with music and Grammy nominations and wins.

No reason to take such a strong stance against a daily banner that combines OP’s interests. It’s their instance, after all.

Generative imagery puts creativity in the hands of many more than are artistically or dexterously gifted enough to communicate artistically. It takes nothing away from the community, and if you prefer not to look at it, its as simple as averting your eyeballs a few degrees.

krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 months ago

Generative imagery puts creativity in the hands of many more than are artistically or dexterously gifted enough to communicate artistically. It takes nothing away from the community, and if you prefer not to look at it, its as simple as averting your eyeballs a few degrees.

You’re acting as if making art is an ability you’re born with and you can’t make art if you weren’t gifted with it at birth. The beautiful thing about art is the skill and dedication put into the piece.

One of the main things that make humans human, is our creativity, why would we give that up?

Making art with electronics is very different to having “art” made by electronics.

notfromhere@lemmy.ml · 8 months ago

Look at OP’s prompt text and tell me that is not a work of art. Seriously, the ingenuity of it baffles me.

Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com · edit-2 8 months ago

For starters AI generated “art” can’t really even be called art.

You called it art. Zer0 said images, and its just that.

I think I would argue that this immediate jump to “AI is NOT Art” that a lot of these commenters are making could be considered strawman arguments exactly for that reason. db0 and others have not and are not claiming that it is or isn’t art, this is just an announcement that we have an image generator to randomize banners and also sharing the code so those that want it can integrate it in their instance.

orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts · 8 months ago

Hey, this is awesome! I might have to set this up to change the banner on my own instance daily. I’ve written a decent amount of python in my time so maybe I can take a look at the code too.

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · edit-2 8 months ago

Fluxa Avataria is linked on the top. PRs or suggestions welcome.

hazeebabee@slrpnk.net · 8 months ago

Yo db dont let these haters get you down. I think it looks like a really cool project and love the idea of a shifting banner than anyone can contribute prompts to. I also love the idea of backgroud details being influenced by various metrics of the community.

AI is a tool (just like photoshop, electric lawn mowers, and combustion engines). Anyone who thinks its replacing artists are really underestimating the editing needed to produce something good from AI generators. And this is comming from a writer who loves how much AI has helped with various parts of the process.

hatedbad@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 months ago

AI is a tool that is fundamentally based on the concept of theft and plagiarism. The LLM training data comes from artists and creators that did not consent to their work being plagiarized by a hallucinating machine.

communism@lemmy.ml · 8 months ago

You are in a piracy community

Gadg8eer@sh.itjust.works · 8 months ago

So is art itself. I might not name things the same as my inspirations or create anything identical, but I haven’t written a single thing that wasn’t based on something else.

I don’t want the AI being trained on my work either, but that’s because I oppose “automated mass slavery”

“Oh, you don’t want to be a slave in return for only the most basic of food and shelter? Sure, see if there are any jobs out there anymore, now that robots can do all of it for rich arrogant god complex sufferers like me. Lets lay the new ground rules… You’re DISPOSABLE to me. Beg and worship or die.” - A designated slaveowner’s thought process, 2084.

Stop thinking like a capitalist and start thinking like you’re an angry drunk if you really believe LLM should be outlawed. Envy is not a flattering look on anyone, you included. At least protests and riots get shit done, even if that means sacrificing a lifestyle you’re clearly only enjoying thanks to being self-centered in your artistic pursuits.

Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 months ago

Man, I love a person on u/piracy arguing we can’t do something because it’s theft and plagiarism.

Keelhauling is too good for them.

hatedbad@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 months ago

yeah silly me for supporting artists with my money but also downloading drm-free copies of things so I can actually exercise a semblance of ownership. but sure, keelhaul me so you can keep your sense of smug superiority.

hazeebabee@slrpnk.net · edit-2 8 months ago

I see where youre comming from & also think its important to support artists I like, and I do. I think both AI and artists can coexist & serve different purposes.

Something like this, using AI for a banner, is using a tool for people to create something they couldnt/wouldnt before. It doesnt mean I’m not going to buy a cool print or painting from an artist I like.

& I think its cool to have something that aggregates information and makes it accesible and easy to work with for the masses. Its messed up that it is currently controlled by corporate interests, but there are also people working on FOSS ai. Its this kind of snapshot of humanity in its current state, that I think goes beyond any particular artist/writer/person.

I get being worried about it taking jobs, but I think new ones will spring up to take their place.

(Or really optimistically maybe well see some sort of radical change that will make the concept of ‘earning a living’ obsolete, like UBI or something)

Edited to add: as a writer, people who buy my writing wouldnt just use ai to replace me. If anything it can supplement my work by making it easier for fans to make fanart & help build hype around the universe and characters that I created.

Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 months ago

But you’re not allowed to. You’re STEALING, and you should ask, “Am I the baddie?”