• umami_wasabi@lemmy.ml
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    Except many services are very aggressive to Tor exit nodes, namely Google and Cloudflare. Everytime I just met with CAPTCHA after CAPTCHAs, and eventually I gave up on the site.

    Yeah, I should cut ties with Google but cutting YouTube on NewPipe is hard. I’m on Proton and watching YouTube is already hard.

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      You may want to give Freetube a try, which may avoid that issue (especially if combined with libredirect).

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      The latest captchas and cloudflare-turnstile approve you because the google-cloud flare networks have already determined who you are as an individual and just wave you through.

      Tor gets the checks because they don’t know who you are and are seeing you for the first time. Getting a captcha means your privacy strategy is working.

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        Yeah the whole logic of “If I protect my privacy effectively, I won’t be able to use Google services anymore! O woe” is a little bit strange to me.

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          It’s a massive oversimplification. But with captcha systems everywhere, they’re able to see you visit a newspaper, visit the journal site, try to download a journal pdf, and captcha is able to easily conclude that you’re a human and have automatic approval.

          Maybe if you’re going straight to a site for the first time today it would measure your single mouse click. And then from there tracking you across the Internet, assuming you’re online for maybe 6 hours like 99% of connected humans.

          Tor blocks all the fingerprinting, and anonymizes the ip address. Captcha is only able to see a computer arrive at the website requesting access. Captcha’s only tool is to give challenges which the bots are able to beat. So they make you run the challenge multiple times, seeing how long it takes your or randomizing how many times you’re willing to do them.

          Source: some tech YouTuber did a mini documentary about it. You could watch it yourself I assume.

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            and anonymizes the ip address.

            The hell it does, it’s the exit node’s IP address, nothing anonymous about that… and that’s the problem, they know it’s a Tor exit node so they’ll give you extra shit for it.

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      I’ve had the same experience with van’s requiring a captcha for every second website I visit.