A phone CPU challenging a top of the line desktop GPU is crazy.
Desktop CPU, with a 170W TDP.
Granted, the comparison is an extremely specific synthetic benchmark, but still, I agree: utterly wild.
It doesn’t really challenge the desktop CPU in multithreaded tests where the 170w are actually relevant.
The test also includes AI tasks, the Apple chip seems to spend around 20% of real estate on that, the desktop CPU had none.
been like this with the Apple A chips for years
I have to demonstrate to my friends every time how my MBP M2 blows my Ryzen 5950x desktop out of the water for my professional line of work.
I can’t catch quite the drift what x86/x64 chips are good for anymore, other than gaming, nostalgia and spec boasting.
I have a 5950X computer and a Mac mini with some form of M2.
I render video on the M2 computer because I have that sweet indefinite Final Cut Pro license, but then I copy it to the 5950X computer and use ffmpeg to recompress it, which is like an order of magnitude faster than using the M2 computer to do the video compression.
I have some other tasks I’ve given both computers and when the 5950X actually gets to use all its cores, it blows the M2 out of the water.
Is it possible you’re using your desktop’s GPU for ffmpeg encoding, and not the CPU, by chance?
It’s geekbench though…unless things have changed that’s a garbage benchmark. Glad A18 is doing well, but it doesn’t compete with the laptop/desktop space. If it did, they wouldn’t bother making the M series.
Yeah, geekbench has long been known to favor iPhones. Even compared to other mobile SoCs like Qualcomm or MediaTek, it’s… uh… “optimized” for what Apple chips are designed around.
Using it on a desktop for benchmarking is… Even more useless.
On top of that:
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The single core number obviously only uses one big core, of which Apple’s chip only has 2.
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The score only reflects the maximum burst speed (it’s not expected to sustain that kind of performance for more than 10 seconds. Even using both big cores simultaneously would cut that score short due to overheating.
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Desktop cpu has 16 cores that are all identical, and is expected to sustain those workloads indefinitely. Servers and supercomputers run these things 24/7.
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The desktop cpu is on an older node as well, inherently less power efficient.
It’s a bit like saying, “for 10 seconds, I can run as fast as the world’s fastest marathon
runnerTEAM!”. Neat factoid but still incomparable.That’s a great breakdown of it. Thanks for taking the time to lay it all out.
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What is Intel doing? A 12W CPU should not be faster than their 125W flagship. Single core performance is what matters the most in a lot of usage scenarios.
Intel is still on 10nm lithography. Did they stop investing in R&D and machinery a while back? AMD is on 7, Apple on 3.
Intel literally spent a decade trying to make there CPUs just a little bit faster, but not too much faster, every year. They succeeded in doing so, and we have this as a result.
The worst part is they aren’t eving running at 125w or whatever they claim, often into the 180w or 200w range to reach there own marketing benchmarks.
Their latest is 3nm.
You all know that nm are just marketing, and there isn’t anything there with literally 3nm
