Or we could you know, reduce the number of guns. Wonder who the investors are in these school “safety” companies.
I’m all for gun control. As in, significant reforms, nationwide reforms. Real background checks. Limits on the types of guns. Insurance requirements. Safety training requirements. The list can keep on going…
That said, I’d still want an emergency alert system in schools. There are other threats and other situations where it could be needed, there is nothing wrong with having both.
As in, significant reforms
See: Australia.
Juuuust about ideal, definitely.
Sure, except we are defenceless to the rampant dropbears. /s
Australia is a funny example for gun control. Yanks seem to think we have no guns at all, but the reality is that as long as you are mentally sound and store your guns safely, they aren’t that hard to get.
as long as you are mentally sound and store your guns safely
Yeah, that’s a pretty substantial improvement to what we have in the US.
According to polling most Americans support stricter gun control measures but not a ban. As usual, it’s the Electoral College and FPTP (IMO, no country with either should be listed as a full democracy. Not USA, not UK, and not Canada.) Still, it is true that the gun issue is too often presented as binary (but I’d actually say this is just as common with foreigners arguing for gun bans as it is with Americans arguing against it.)
Which do you think is easier, getting a system like this installed in a school, or changing US gun culture?
For the US, I think it would be so slow at catching up to more developed standards of gun control that it would be generational and not a matter of years. It’s not so much the laws that are currently in place that’s the issue, it’s the lack of regulation that’s created such an ingrained culture that’s going to take a long time to evolve. So, technology like this would stil definitely be utilised in the future.
My thoughts, anyway.
And honestly, I didn’t even realise there was another school shooting in the US. Internationally, I guess it just gets covered less and less because it’s not really “news” anymore.
I don’t think it even made the news here in NZ, if it did it was just one brief story.
Mass shootings are a matter of routine in the states.
I first saw it on salon under a story about Steve Doocy being an idiot. They barely make the news in the US unless there’s some extra aspect that makes it unusual.
just ban guns like every other first world country thats all we ask…
No, no! To prevent these shootings it’s obvious that removing every kid’s trigger finger is the best solution. First we need companies to emerge that can receive these fingers and keep them alive and healthy until the kids are 21 years of age. We should also remove their penises. Sure we could teach sexual health but that’s not something you want in school! Plus just imagine all the money 💰💰🤑🤑 to be made during the removal and reattachment procedures!!! There could be re-attachment ceremonies! And they’re kids so you’re bound to end up with extra fingers in case the 4th of July goes wrong or because the 4th of July went really wrong. And you can choose the orientation! Forget opposing thumbs! That was between us and the animals! Imagine opposing pointing fingers! What couldn’t you do! What couldn’t you do indeed!
Guns aren’t banned in any first world country.
Just more regulated.Regards, a German gun owner.
They are virtually banned. Like you can’t just have a gun. You need an actual reason to own one like being a hunter though I guess you can claim it’s for hobby too. Still nearly no one here owns a gun.
Still nearly no one here owns a gun.
If you’re speaking about Germany, leave the city, talk to some older folks.
You’d be surprisedThey are virtually banned.
There is about as much regulation around guns as around cars in Germany. The license, tax and insurance costs much less for guns, and no one fails the required test unless they point the gun at an instructor.
No one would claim cars are banned.
Simplistic logic that sounds nice but doesn’t actually work. There are more guns than people in this country. We have significantly bigger problems with illegal drug cartels than most. Drug gangs, who have access to illicit import capability, commit the lion’s share of gun violence. The right to keep in their arms is literally written into our Constitution.
Put those things together and you have a few very big problems.The first is that any sort of gun ban will basically fail unless you amend the Constitution, which there is not political will to do by any means. And those who want to keep their gun rights will point out that there are at 4-5x as many defensive gun uses by law abiding gun owners as there are gun homicides. So it is unlikely that you will be able to get any sort of gun ban to happen.
Second, even if you did, you could never get rid of any significant number of them. There is no national registration scheme. A couple of states have their own registration schemes but those are generally not the states with the majority of firearms. Look at other countries that had similar situations like Australia, they have had numerous amnesty periods for people to turn in firearms and they still don’t think they have a significant majority of them collected.
Finally the question is who you are disarming? Remember, the lions share of gun murders are committed by drug gangs. A gang that can import illegal drugs can just as easily import illegal guns. Or, guns are actually not that hard to make, significantly easier than drugs. Any decently equipped machine shop can crank out guns, and unlike a drug lab which has to be out of the country the machine shop has a legitimate day shift use so it can operate in the open and pay taxes.
Point is, you will end up disarming the law abiding citizens while the criminals will still be armed, and willing to sell those guns to other criminals.I also very much want to end school shootings. I hate that we are turning schools into fortresses or prisons. I hate the teachers, who are already paid shit, have to think things like ‘time to attack a gunman with scissors’.
But I want to spend effort and money on the policy that will most likely bring that goal about. Maximum bang for buck if you will. And I’m sorry but gun control isn’t it.
Gun control works in literally every other developed country in the world.
(Apart from the zionist regime) most other states weren’t founded and ruled by an armed populace genociding the original inhabitants.
Guys, there’s no point in making bombs illegal. Everyone can just buy the ingredients they need from their hardware store and Amazon anyway. /s
A stupid (as in, not intelligent) analogy.
Bomb laws don’t stop bombers. You CAN buy hardware store ingredients and make a bomb. Most people don’t do such things.
The point of the bomb law is so when they get a tip and raid someone’s house and find a few bricks of C4 wrapped in nails with a clock attached, they have something to arrest him for rather than saying ‘we have to wait until you use this to hurt people’.
But that’s also because that bomb has very few legitimate uses. There aren’t neighborhood bomb ranges where people go to compete and practice. You can’t use a bomb to hunt or protect yourself from 4-legged predators when in the woods. There aren’t bombing tournaments. You can’t use a bomb in self-defense or to protect your home or family. There ARE legitimate uses for bombs in mining, agriculture, industry, etc but those are uncommon and thus highly regulated.
A gun has many legitimate uses, and tens or hundreds of millions of law-abiding Americans use guns legally every day. Neighborhood gun ranges host classes, practice sessions, and competitions / tournaments. Guns are used for hunting and defense from predators in the woods. A gun can defend your home and family from intruders. And a small concealed pistol can be used to defend against street crime.
Such confidence, such poise.
