Squish them like bug. Show me you can do it, AMD.
Narrator: They couldn’t.
AMD seems to be doing great: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4718576-amd-stock-ai-accelerators-drive-revenue-and-margin-outlook-upgrade-buy
Down 6% YTD and a market cap of 1/12 of their only competitor isn’t “doing great.”
- AMD’s Data Center revenue surged 115% YoY in Q2 2024, driven by Instinct MI300 AI accelerators and EPYC processors, leading to raised revenue guidance and a BUY rating.
- Client segment revenue grew 49% YoY, fueled by strong Ryzen processor demand and Zen 5 sales, prompting an increased revenue forecast for 2024 and 2025.
- Gaming segment revenue fell 59% YoY due to weak console demand, resulting in a lowered revenue forecast for this segment through 2025.
- AMD’s acquisitions of Silo AI and ZT Systems aim to strengthen its AI and data center market position, enhancing long-term growth prospects.
Did you even read it?
Down 6% YTD and a market cap of 1/12 of their only competitor isn’t “doing great.”
Firstly, Nvidia isn’t AMD’s only competitor. There’s Intel, Qualcomm, and a litany of other companies that compete with Xilinx, who AMD purchased.
Secondly, only looking at the stock price and treating that as gospel shouldn’t be how you’re assessing whether a company is doing well or not.
GameStop stock exploded, it wasn’t because they were doing well. Nvidia became the most valuable company on earth by market cap - do you really think they’re that valuable, more than Microsoft or Apple, or is it a bubble? Tesla stock went crazy because Elon kept chatting nonsense about how all their cars would be driverless by 2018. Etc. shit, go back enough, tulip stocks were worth more than all of the textiles industry if you only care about market cap.
The stock market is not rational. Don’t judge the health of a company purely based on their stock price.
Did you even read it?
Well, it’s accountwalled so no.
Additionally, holy shit my dude. Nice work being Exhibit 1A as to why retail investors and common folk shouldn’t be allowed to speak about the stock market, corporate valuation, or business finances generally.
Can’t take an L and reevaluate or something? Why this response to a pretty reasonable rebuttal of your surface take?
The irony of saying that when you think the be-all and end-all of how good a business is doing is looking at its stock price this year.
If only it were that simple.
Fucking do it. Anything that takes down Nvidia’s CUDA Monopoly has my full support.
As a general rule, don’t use a corporation’s language. Languages, and their reference implementation, should be truly independent.
Edit: To be clear, programming language.
Don’t let a word have that much power over your life
Corporation? I’m not anti business, far from it. But I have an interest in economics as well as technology. We need effective markets. CUDA is an example of a market problem caused by a corporation’s own language. It has screwed up competition.
I mean if anything, look at Velcro and how generalising a term makes it untrademarkeable. Overusing words can and will screw companies.
He means programming language. Don’t use programming languages that are controlled by a single company. Not “don’t say CUDA when you mean any general purpose GPU programming language”.
This checks out after what they recently did to the ZLUDA project. As an owner of an AMD gpu I agree that ROCM support is really bad. It works half of the time and fairly poorly.
Even worse on Linux. Even worse on more exotic distros like Bazzite where I still can’t get koboldcpp to run, which was already kind of a hassle on my previous distro.
Yeah I hear ya. How do you happen to be running it? I use NixOS and its a challenge there for me but I found atleast some success using docker since the dependencies are so out of control for AI at the moment.
Also give Ollama-rocm + Open Webgui a shot as an alternative to koboldcpp if you cant get atleast some text generation to work because that is the only thing I have got working with rocm.
At the moment I just don’t. I got kobolcpp to run through distrobox / boxbuddy but I can’t get it to compile with rocm, so I can only use CPU generation, which is abysmally slow. Might go back to NovelAI when they release their new model if I can’t find a solution.
What card do you use? I have a 6700XT and getting anything with ROCM running for me requires that I pass the
HSA_OVERRIDE_GFX_VERSION=10.3.0environmental variable to the related process, otherwise it just refuses to run properly. I wonder if it might be something similar for you too?6650 XT. Honestly no idea. When I run
make LLAMA_HIPBLAS=1 GPU_TARGETS=gfx1032 -j$(nproc)in the Fedora distrobox on kobolcpp it throws a bunch offatal error: 'hip/hip_fp16.h' file not found 36 | #include <hip/hip_fp16.h>errors and koboldcpp does not give an option to use Vulkan.
Ah, strange. I don’t suppose you specifically need a Fedora container? If not, I’ve been using this Ubuntu based distrobox container recipe for anything that requires ROCM and it has worked flawless for me.
If that still doesn’t work (I haven’t actually tried out kobolcpp yet), and you’re willing to try something other than kobolcpp, then I’d recommend the text-generation-webui project which supports a wide array of model types, including the GGUF types that Kobolcpp utilizes. Then if you really want to get deep into it, you can even pair it with SillyTavern (it is purely a frontend for a bunch of different LLM backends, text-generation-webui is one of the supported ones)!
I don’t think so, it’s just what I’m more familiar with and I usually try to avoid apt’s PPA hell as much as I can. But maybe I should try some others, as I couldn’t get Mullvad to run either yet. :/
Text gen web ui I tried quite a while before I went to koboldcpp on my previous distro and I could not get that to run without crashing whenever I tried to generate anything. Sillytavern is my standard frontend that I use, so any text gen software should inherently compatible with that anyway.
