• JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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      8 days ago

      But that’s not criminal. That’s civil. That’s no different than a contract dispute. It’s not government enforced, but it may be government mediated.

      You could disobey a civil summons…but that’s a different issue.

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        8 days ago

        Civil law created and enforced by the goverment is goverment sanctioned. And FYI it is also criminal, you can go to goverment-sanctioned private prison for it.

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          Yes. I don’t know what you are arguing. I don’t think you do either.

          Contract violation is a civil issue, not criminal. I think you agree with that.

          You cannot get imprisoned for violating a contract. I think this is what you’re missing.

          However if you are sued for a contract violation, you will receive a civil summons.

          A civil summons is a court order. That is word of law, and wilful disregard or disobedience of a court order is literally contempt of court.

          You can get arrested for that. But that’s not getting arrested for a contract violation, that’s getting arrested for contempt.

          Do you expect contempt to not have teeth? It’s literally the underpinning of all modern courts, that participants in it have respect for the truth and respect for the court. Of course the court and the government has to protect and enforce that respect.

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      8 days ago

      Just stop. This is the same bad faith rabbit hole libertarians use to say the government is all violence, from safety codes to taxes.

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          Damn and I nearly made it the whole year without this stupid shit in my life. Oh well, there’s always 2025!

          May you never learn what state sponsored violence actually looks like.

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            8 days ago

            State-sponsored violence isn’t just concentration camps and gulags. It includes toiling your whole life to create IP for capitalists, while they profit by simply owning it.

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      8 days ago

      Lol, are you some sovereign citizen‽

      The world doesn’t work like that. You can’t just say “No that thing isn’t your! I didn’t agree with it being yours.”